the president retelling a debunked mythical story about general pershing shooting muslims with bullets dipped in pigs' blood during the philippine american war. the same discredited story that he told during the campaign at a rally in tweaks. republican support for the trump -- in 2016. republican support for the trump team is waning and showing cracks. republicans calling him out, questioning his competence and stability. their words. we have it all covered. we'll start with becky anderson live in barcelona where a moment of silence will be observed to honor the victims in just seconds. >> reporter: we will get to what is this complex terror investigation by spanish authorities in a moment. it's important that we pause for a moment because there are hundreds of people who have gathered here in this square, plaque ka cat lun yeah to

remember those who were victims of these terror attacks, 13 dead here in barcelona. over 100 injured, more injured in cambrils in the coastal town. let's pause for a moment.

>> reporter: lest we not forget the victims of these terror attacks, terror riveted on spain in the past 24 to 36 hours. as i say, there is now a fluid

on going police operation to nail down those involved in what occurred here. let's start with just a sense of what happened. hours after a white van plowed through crowds of pedestrians on one of barcelona's streets, catalunya police, authorities fatally shooting the five attackers in the car that drove into pedestrians on the sea front. the late night incident believe to be related to the terrifying earlier attack in barcelona that killed at least 13 and injured more than 100. >> i saw people flying over the vehicle, and it was just a really, really horrific scene of immediate carnage. >> reporter: witnesses say the

driver of the van who remains on the loose accelerated to 50 miles an hour before sirg zagging down the boulevard, attempting to hit as many people as possible. >> he was just plowing people down. he was swerving left and right. my taxi driver stopped and yes froze. to say the word terror, you can't imagine the fear that comes over you. >> reporter: panic and chaos as frightened survivors run for cover, the famous promenade covered in bodies, one woman documents carnage from her window overlooking the scene. investigators now desperately searching for the driver who abandoned the van before fleeing on foot.

spanish authorities calling the assault an active jihadi terrorism as isis calls the attackers soldiers of the islamic state. police investigating multiple subjects, one connected to this house explosion in catalunya that killed one woman the night before the attack in barcelona. the scenes we have witnessed over the last 36 hours sadly all too familiar on main land europe and in the uk over the past year or two. but this is a sign of defiance, this fantastic city of barcelona will not be cowed. it will go on, life will go on for the vic times of these attacks here and in the coastal town will be remembered. back to you.

>> becky anderson, thank you very much. observing that very important moment of silence for all of those lost. let's bring in our panel and talk about what we know and don't know. cnn terrorism analyst paul cruicksha cruickshank, to you first, there's sadly not a first. an acceleration of this use of vehicles. 120 people through different vehicle attacks in the west since 2014, what do we know so far and what stands out to you? >> what stands out to me is this was from all appearances a very large cell involved in this sequence of attacks. we're talking up to ten terrorists here according to the details we're learning so far. that's about the same size as the paris attack cell back in november of 2015. here they don't appear to have automatic weapons and were not successful in trying to make explosives. it may well be that that house

explosion which leveled that property was the bomb factory. spanish media are reporting that. police believe they were trying to make explosives there. the scenario we might be looking at is that they had a mishap, blew themselves up and some of the others moved to plan b which was a low attack we saw on las ramblas. the worry is some of these perpetrators are still alarming and may strike again. very worrying times for european terrorism officials. >> phil mudd, what do we know about who did this and the use of the vehicles? is this about circumstance, convenience, is it a trend? >> i don't think it's about convenience. let me pick up on something paul said because i think it's critical. i think the police operations and the explosion the night before might have avoided more

deaths. it looks to me like these guys were building truck bombs and when they got busted, they realize they had to move quickly until the police moved in. what i'm learning when i see this is, if you've got a cell this size, i've got to believe there are more people involved in the second echelon, who provided money and training? did they travel to syria and iraq? who facilitated that? i don't think we've seen the end of the identification of this cell, no that there are more operators out there, but a peripheral element that would support them. typically in one of these you'll see one, two, three people. as paul said, we saw this in paris. the first question i would have is there not only a larger operational piece but a bigger support piece that might be supporting another cell. >> what about the significance of this happening in spain? spain has been more immune

recently than france for example. when we saw what happened in london. the last big terror attack in spain was 2004. what is unique about that and why is it significant that this happened in spain? >> we haven't seen a major terror attack in spain since the train bombing in 2004. i think what's particularly unique about this, if you look at what the spanish authorities have done over the past several years, they've done a good job identifying potential terror threats and have arrested several hundred people in the last two or three years who are either involved in plotting terror attacks or suspected of being involved in terrorist attacks. what's unique about this, these terror cells, they see that, they understand this is a place where people are going to really pay attention to what they're doing. as phil was pointing out, this was a soft target, the kind of thing that's particularly

concerning to counterterrorism officials because the soft targets, unlike when we see terror attacks or terror plotting focused on airports or airlines or other things like that, there's not a lot that we can do to harden these soft targets. in spain, this is one of those instances where we're going to have to take a hard look at how this was done and who was responsible and figure out how we avoid this happening in other places across europe. >> isis announced the guys as soldiers of the islamic state. that doesn't mean they're behind it. paul, are we focusing more on vehicles being used, or is there an uptick in the convenience aspect? >> there's no doubt this is a weapon of choice now with european terrorism. that attack in nice last summer, but also stockholm, berlin, who attacks on two london bridges involving vehicles. we're going to see more of this. it's easy to get hold of a car,

get hold of more of these things and launch more of these kind of attacks. we don't know yet whether they were connected with isis. isis has put out opportunistic claims in the past. they claim the manila casino back in june which turned out knob to be a terrorism attack at all. in the berlin case, christmas, that attack was in touch with isis in libya through encrypted apps. there might be a video that comes out. but not clear whether isis had anything concretely to do with this. hida wrote about this a few moments ago, the ultimate mowing machine, because it takes no advanced planning. a car is cheaper and easier to come by arguably, than making

all these bombs. to krits's point, weigh in. >> there's a broader question i would touch on here regarding what kind of tactic a terrorist used. isis has lost since mid 2014 massive amounts of territory in iraq and syria. the likelihood they can bring somebody in europe and train them on a highly sophisticated backpack bomb is declining. if you're reading an isis magazine or al qaeda magazine and you want to operate in a place like france or the u.k. or spain, the likelihood you can get training to build a sophisticated device is declining. so what do you turn to? i want to pick up a truck and mow down people. >> also a different breed of coward. you can get behind the wheel of a vehicle and not necessarily want to take your own life.

>> a lot more to get to. president trump very quick to condemn on twitter the terror attack in barcelona. his response is sparking controversy. this as more republican leaders come forward and slam the president's comments on charlottesville. athena jones, what is the word -- >> reporter: no new reaction from the white house or the president. in the face of on going criticism for his defense of white supremacists, we're seeing a familiar pattern from the president. he's refusing to back down. instead inserting himself deeper into the racially charged debate over confederate memorials and new controversy over his response to the horrific attack in barcelona. president trump spreading fake news while condemning oh,

reviving a story on the campaign trail. >> he took 50 bullets and dipped them in pig's blood and shot 49 of those people and for 29 years there wasn't a problem. >> reporter: the problem, historians repeatedly said this never happened. this falsehood coming as president trump's support base continues to crack over his defense of white supremacists. >> a lot of people in that group who were there to innocently protest and legally protest. i don't know if you know, they had a permit. >> reporter: the son of fox ceo rupert murdock, one of president trump's closest informal advisers denouncing the president in a scathing e-mail writing, when we watched this last week in charlottesville and the reaction to it by the president of the united states concern all of us as americans and free people. the president's behavior also

wearing thin with a growing list of his republican allies who were calling him out by name. >> the president has not yet been able to demonstrate the stability nor some of the competence that he needs to demonstrate in order to be successful. >> what we want to see from our president is clarity and moral authority, and that moral authority is compromised. >> senate majority leader mitch mcconnell releasing a statement throwing his full support behind senator jeff flake after the president when after him and lindsey graham on twitter. the controversy also taking a toll on the president's bottom line and his business relationships with three charities backing out of scheduled events at mar-a-lago, all this coming as mr. trump ends plans for an advisory council on infrastructure.

despite the backlash, the president digging in, calling it foolish to remove statues of confederate icons, lamenting the beauty that would be taken out of american cities. when asked about the removal of the con federal flag. >> i think they should put it in a museum, let it go. >> reporter: now, prbs leaves bedminster later this morning for a quick trip down to camp david, only his second visit to the presidential retreat since taking office. this is not a leisure trip. he'll be meeting with the national security council talking about strategy in afghanistan and south asia. what's not clear is whether any other topics like north korea will come up. >> athena jones, thank you very much for the reporting. what is all this infighting going to do to the president's

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character of this nation. >> some are calling it a schism within the republican party. to see senator bob corker calling out the president yesterday, calling out his competency, that is unusual and now raises the question of how will the president respond. >> let's bring in cnn political analyst ron brownstein, political writer for "the plik" molly ball and david drucker. molly, i was looking at you while that was playing. we were talking before this is the president considers maybe as vp, secretary of state. this is not a lipid say graham or john mccain. what do you make of it? how big is that that he questioned the president's competency and stability? >> it's a big deal because, as you say, bob corker has really tried to be on trump's team. on the other hand, those of us who cover the congress know bob corker is a truth teller, he's

not someone who is going to tow the party line if he doesn't believe it. that's part of the reason he was able to -- part of the reason, frankly, that he rejected the vp slot when he was considered for it. he just didn't think that he could continue to be on trump's team if it was going to require him to often bury his relationship with the truth. so the word in that statement that i still wonder about is yet, because so many republicans are still saying he's not yet there. i think that word yet is going to disappear as they come to the end of their lope and realize, it's not that it's going to happen -- hasn't happened yet. >> the measure is, while the president's inability to surrender the me to the we may suit his personal political aims of this new nationalism that he's pushing. it's hurting the ability to get anything done in congress.

it's a distraction and been counterproductive for them, and that's going to frustrate if nothing else. >> the issue goes beyond that. in many ways the republicans in congress are in the exact same position as the business executives were who stampeded away from him ave. his remarks about charlottesville. on the one hand, both groups largely agree with him on the economic agenda, maybe on trade there are differences. by and large they want less taxes and less regulation. businessmen are hoping to work with him on those issues and keep out of the racial division and signaling that's been essential to his message sainz day one. i think that's been the posture as well of republicans in congress, particularly someone like paul ryan who portrays himself as a disciple of jack kemp who has been critical of the president but bit his lip of trump in office because they want to turn to things like taxes and deregulation.

business leaders decided that was too high a price to pay, standing next to trump because of the social and racial views he was expressing was too high a price to pay for cooperation on the economic side, and you do wonder when republicans in congress, more republicans in congress will make the same calculation, even though they want to move ahead on the economic agenda, they have to more clearly distance themselves from the president by name. >> chris, i think that's going to happen when they get a signal from their voters that that's where the voters are headed. if you talk to republicans and talk to their advisers, one of the things they're very cautious about, one of the things they have a good understanding of, the republican base, even though we've seen cracks in the base when it comes to trump are still largely with him. for some, they'll never abandon him. for those who are skeptical and don't like the behavior, it's too soon. >> one quick point, david. historically every time members of congress have stood up to a

president of their own party, they've done so before the base has moved. befo whether it's william fulbright, or republicans voted to create the watergate committee when nixon was 70% among republicans -- he only went 50% among republicans only once. you can go back to history and see there have been occasions when leaders particularly in the senate have concluded they need to challenge a president of their own party before their own voters get there. >> and i think we've started to see some of that. i think this is a little bit of a different era. the politics of today is a lot more tribal than it used to be. that has made republicans that have seen trump survive scandals that would have sunk anybody else a lot more cautious and worried, especially since the republican base in particular

loathes its own party and loathes their leaders. we have seen the differences that cropped up this week in a willingness to speak up more forcefully against the president. this is something that has been building and in september it can cause real problems as they try to tackle parts of the president's agenda and things they have to do like fund the government. such a lack of trust between republicans on the hill and the white house, it's going to make it very difficult to get anything big done. it's going to make it difficult to get some of the small things done because they're so at odds with each other and there's no trust between the two. you need that if you're going to take these votes. >> an interesting new monmouth poll out, 61% who approve of the president and his behavior and say there's nothing he can ever, ever do that would change their mind. it reminds me when he said in jest, i could stand in the middle of fifth avenue and shoot

someone and people would stay loyal. >> that's why they're trump's base. the problem for trump is it's an increasingly shrinking group. the people who strongly support group, that is a group that is getting smaller and smaller. it's a percentage of the electorate that's getting smaller and smaller. it's never been a majority of the electorate. a lot of republicans who might have voted for trump because they thought he was better than the alternative, moving from the strongly support to slightly support category and that puts them in danger of moving off the island altogether. yes, the base is always going to be there and that's not enough to win an election. i think you'll see republicans realizing that the problem is they're more loyal to trump than their local congressman. >> we'll talk about in the next panel what he's doing and whether that speaks to his desire to expand as we thought

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the top three officers in the u.s.s. fitzgerald are set to lose their leadership positions at a naval hearing. the destroyer collided with a cargo ship off the coast of japan. seven sailors died after their sleeping quarters flooded. other sailors were commended from saving their comrades and preventing the fitzgerald from swininging. wall street will open in a few hours after worries that the white house might have strig gerd a selloff yesterday. the dow falling 274 points, the

biggest drop in three months. traders fearing mr. trump's business friendly adviser gary kohn could resign and others might be less likely to work with the president in light of his comments on charlottesville. many people hitting the road this weekend for an historic event on monday. for the first time in 99 years, a total solar eclipse will cross the country. for a large portion of the country, it will feel like someone turned off the sun in the middle of the day. it's expected to last for nearly an hour and a half. >> are you going? >> i'm going to be in europe. i don't think i'll get to see it there. >> you'll see the pictures. >> take a picture of the darkness for me. president trump once again disregarding facts. he retold this debunked story he once peddled during the 2016 campaign. the better question might be why is he doing this? is there a strategy at play, whether it's charlottesville, the stories beyond his

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president trump facing criticism over his response to the terror attacks in barcelona, first taking a measured tone offering support in his first tweets to the u.s. ally. moments later, bringing up this debunked mythical war crimes story to stop what he calls radical islamic terrorism. let's bring back our panel. molly, to you, this is a story about general pershing who he said -- shall we play this? he tweeted about it yesterday but said this to explain it more during the campaign. >> general pershing was sent there to solve a really serious terror problem. they caught 50 radical islamic terrorist. they took a pig and they took a

second pig and they cut the big open and took the bullets and dumped the bullets into the pigs and swashed it around. then they took the bullets and they shot 49 of the 50 people. and the 50th person, they said take this bullet. he brought it back, that 50th person and for 42 years they didn't have a problem with radical islamic terrorism. >> okay. that story, he repeated it on twitter in the tweet yesterday. the problem with this, molly, it's not true. >> it's so not true that politifacts gave it a pants on fire reading. >> every time you play that clip you have to say it's not true, it never happened. he's just making it up. >> the fact that he wants it to be true is more disturbing than

his grip on history, molly. listen to the crowd, what they were cheering for as the death came up. it's one thing to be a demagogue when you're running for office and pandering to those blood loss situations, but as president -- >> there's a few things that come together here. it's the lying. it's the racism, and in the tuesday press conference him saying oh, i had to hear all the facts before i could make a judgment. that's somehow not the case when people he doesn't like are implicated in a traumatic incident. so he is exactly who he's always been. the clip you played was during the campaign. anyone who covers the presidential campaign, as i did, knew that he said things that weren't true, that he bought into conspiracy theories and believed that they were a way to galvanize people around him by telling people what they wanted to believe, by giving people a scapegoat in people who weren't like them. that continues to be his play as

president. it's so much more disturbing when he is the president and when it affects things that are happening here in america. >> and then that takes us into the latest iteration of this, ron brownstein, which is the guise, the ruse of what charlottesville was about, keeping up the statue of robert e. lee which, by the way, didn't have any connection to charlottesville, wasn't born there, died there. it was a ruse for them to have the unite the right march. the president is pushing back hard on the statues. he's got bannon e-mailing about this saying they believe they can win on this issue. what is the play here? >> first, your point is absolutely right. the statue is the pretext for the rally. nnz didn't drive down from charlottesville because of the appreciation of culture. "jews will not replace us" was

not a battle cry of the confederacy. the president is trying to shift the issue from him essentially excusing this extremist violence to a more complex one about the stat statues. look, it follows what we have seen as a trend for several weeks. i would argue since the failure of the health care which would have imposed such significant cost on the core of his con constituency, we've seen the president turn sharply right on cultural and social issues, banning transgender soldiers. that's a nerm and a long-term bet. in the near term he's hoping to unite voters who elected him who are voters, uneasy to various degrees. in the near term the question is

whether the constituencies exemplified by the business community who abandoned him who are uncomfortable with his racial rhetoric move away from him even when they agree with him perhaps in economics. in the long term, chris, there is no question that this is a very dangerous bet for the republican party, because whatever you think about the near term political equation, the fact is the millennial generation is becoming the largest generation in the electorate, the most diverse in american history. what's behind him are even more diverse. by 2024, those two generations will be almost half of all the voters, and the president is branding the republican party as a party of racial backlash, precisely as they are emerging really as the dominant forces in the electorate. >> lest you think that this president has long been a supporter of keeping those statues and flags up, listen to what he said when a reporter asked him point-blank during the campaign. >> you're the lone republican presidential candidate who has

yet to weigh in on whether or not you think the confederate flag should be flying above the statehouse in south carolina. do you think it needs to go? >> i think it probably does. i think they should put it in the museum, let it go, respect whatever it was you have to respect but i would take it down yes. >> david drucker? >> this was all a part of a play for the president to cover up his real problem out of charlottesville which is he equated the white supremacists and anti-semites that marched with the counterdemonstrators, some of whom may have acted violent but most of which were peaceful. obviously health are heyier was not a vie rent counterprotester and she was murdered. it distracts away from the real amount political problem, the one that really worried republicans. i think the evidence there is the way the president has conflated the confederacy with the founders. i think that's a real problem

here. there can be a debate about whether or not you should have confederate statues in a town square and localities can deal with that. to say robert e. lee is the same as george washington which is what the president has done which has gotten his base very excited that all of american history is under attack, does a disservice to american history, but serves the president's narrow political purposes and that's dangerous. >> we should keep talking about this, ron. we'll take a break right now. to your point, ron, we should pick up on the idea of what the president is doing to his party. he's saying if you're a conservative, you must support what the confederacy was about culturally and you must keep these statues. we'll talk about that and this call from the american president for the cities to keep their statues up, that they're an important part of american culture. we'll have at least one distinguished university professor who is going to make the argument about why you might keep these and what the implications are from the party

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president trump is trying to move away from drawing a moral equivalence between both sides of the violence in charlottesville and to the issue of confederate statues and monuments. the president tweeting sad to see the history and culture of our great culture being removed. he said during the campaign the confederate flag should come down and be put in a museum. he's changed. let's discuss the merits. we have michael eric dyson, author of "tears we cannot stop" and al brophy, law professor at the university of alabama. let's start with you, professor. keep the statues up because? >> i think they're reminders of the bad old days. it's important to remember that once in this country the people who were in power were supporters of the confederacy and wanted to keep alive the

memory of the war fought to maintain slavery, and i think it's important to remember that history, and those statues are great ways of remembering that history and continuing to have a dialogue about that history. >> michael, counter point? >> well, the point is -- i understand that in a neutral atmosphere that makes sense. in a non-politically charged atmosphere, that would be great. when those symbols are used to reenforce white supremacy which has material consequence, empirical consequence, people are dying, people are clashing, people are being hurt, it's endorsing, it's not teaching. teaching is about the neutral observation of factors that can be considered when we're making an argument about american history. endorsing suggests that this is a powerful ideal to which we aspire, and as a result of that, those symbols can be used to hurt and harm the very people who would neutrally observe it. while i understand what the professor is arguing here, in

this highly charged moment, this is about america's values and what we're reinforcing to our children and the people who are our citizens. >> professor, is it not relevant when they were put up, the turn of the century, during jim crow, almost as an in-your-face reminder that the spirit of the confederacy, which is a malignancy to the unity of this country, still lived at that time? >> i think it's incredibly important when they were put up. that's precisely the point. i agree with professor dyson's argument that we shouldn't just have the monuments by themselves. we need to do the hard work of interpreting them. i think the virtue of having monuments there is that people can then ask, well, why is it that somebody put a statue of general lee up in charlottesville in 1924? having the monuments up there allows us to have on going discussions. obviously they need to be contextualized. >> how do you context lies something that on its face is a

celebration? >> counter monuments is one example. in maryland there's a statue of frederick douglass, the great abolitionist who is from talbot alongside a monument put up in the early 20th century to con federal soldiers. i think that's exactly the kind of dialogue we want. these statues are almost surely going to come down. nothing so powerless as an idea whose time has passed. they'll come down, but i think there's a danger in taking them down. >> i think the danger in leaving them up is even greater. again, in a neutral atmosphere where we're objective or as fair as possible, the professor's point is salient and combing jent. in the midst of culture where we battle over what those are, martin luther king, junior, couldn't get a birthday until the president of the united states, ronald reagan,

begrudgingly signing the legislation said we'll see in 20-some-odd years if he's a communist. if we couldn't agree that martin luther king junior was worthy of celebration of the ideals of this country, we know when we look at robert e. lee or stonewall jackson, what we're arguing this is a manifestation of our ideals. there are a lot of kids who aren't going to ask why do we have a robert e. lee statute. they're going to say you're darn right we've got that statue because that represents what we believe. why don't we have statues of hughey p. newton who was a black panther? because this represents american sacred ground. the national memory is being not only tested, it's being reinforced. i agree with the professor when we don't have lives at stake. when lives are at stake, we have to talk about what those values mean, what those memorials mean and what we're celebrating in public space with public funds to reinnorse the value of our civilization. >> professor, does it concern

you who is taking the side of preservation right now? you have white supremacists down there, you have the president who seems intent on playing identity politics. remember, this is a man when he was campaigning who said the confederate flag's time had past and should be put in a museum. now he sees them as a beautiful piece of history that shouldn't be disturbed. do the motivations suggest this is not as pure a principle as you're putting it out as? >> i think it's very important who is advocating. i think con federal flags obviously had to come down because they were -- that's something you have to keep putting up. the monuments are sort of there. i think we need to contextualize those monuments. i think it's a great idea to have a monument to someone like nat turner, the slave rebel

context matters. >> i agree with that. the reason we're not -- context does matter, but who is providing the context? kids who are looking at this monument without the advice of an adult, and the adults might be on the side of confederacy. we don't need participation trophies. we need to acknowledge what happened. >> gentlemen, two sides to the debate and you presented both sides well and with decency. that's appreciated, especially in this climate. death toll rising in the spain terror attacks. we'll take you live to the scene in barcelona as police try to track down the driver behind that attack next.

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after the first attack. >> i think the president is misguided in his last statement. >> if you disagree with the president, he's going to show his rath. >> the president has not yet been annual to demonstrate the stability and competence he needs to be able to demonstrate. >> the president's emotional and mental health is going to become an increasingly important focus of this story. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> good morning and welcome to your "new day." up first, the death toll rising to 14 victims in the terror attacks in spain. 13 of them died when a man in a van plowed into a crowd of people in the city's popular district known as las ramblas. a third suspect arrested overnight. police are still searching for the driver of that van. there is word of a second dea